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SFC16 Cast Release 4

February 19th, 2017, 4:33 pm

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Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 4:33 pm

Time for Red and Blue Iyzebel and Thorne to reenter and show Scott and Sierra the ropes!

User's Comments:

Reply ChronoAlone, February 19th, 2017, 4:41 pm

Iyzebel: Well, she's definitely not going to be happy about Damon coming back, and will be even angrier when she meets his bro. Looking back at her after SFC13, I don't hate her as much as I did then, but we'll see what this season does.

Scott: He looks like a cool dude, though I can't help but get the feeling that he'll be a fail mastermind and try to set up a power move that will bite him in the ass.

Thorne: I'm alright with this. Not too interested in her still, but maybe a second run will help.

Sierra: She could be nice, but I can't help but get the feeling that Thorne's gonna throw her under the bus and leave her hanging if she needs to.

Also, ech, who let the hipster in?

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 4:55 pm

@ChronoAlone: The same people that let the dogs out

Reply GaryHawkinsLandscaper, February 19th, 2017, 5:34 pm

@SWSU-Master: I see what you did there!

Reply Riskfan, February 19th, 2017, 4:42 pm

15 pages.


Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 4:55 pm

@Riskfan: Need a few more pages to highlight some relationships

Reply TJBambi93 (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 4:42 pm

Iyzebel and Thorne are back! Surprising nobody I'm sure. The real question is... who's left?

Considering Tialayla is next, that means a boy is left. We're down to Tofuchao, Trent, Ventious, Victor, Vinnie, Violet, Wrecker, Xeradonus, Zero, Zach, and Zachary.

I'm fairly certain the final contestant is Vinnie. It has to be. There's one girl unaccounted for in the Donkey Kong challenge (tan, red hair). That removes the non-humans. Also removes the canons since Bowser is there. That leaves Vinnie, Vent, Victor, and the Zachs.

And honestly, considering who we have as returning players, Vinnie would be the icing on the cake.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 4:56 pm

@TJBambi93: Interesting theory. Let's see if it holds up

Reply TJBambi93 (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 5:09 pm

@TJBambi93: If my predictions are correct, these are likely the tribes:

Pink Tribe - Bowser, Bradley, Cassidy, Iyzebel, Lake, Scott, Sierra, Thorne, Vinne, Vinnie's LO

Yellow Tribe - Angelo, Bonnie, Bowser Jr., Brandi, Damon, Doris, Eli, Riley, Sarah, Tialayla

This is based off the preview, and assuming three pairs will start on the same tribe, with four singles each.

Reply idk (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 4:53 pm

based on what SWSU said
it can't be anyone from 11-16
so Xero and Zach are out

Reply Congo, February 19th, 2017, 5:11 pm

iyzebel: too bad iyzebel, damon's on this season lol! she was funny sometimes, kinda annoying at other times. i hope she'll be a little more than a ottn trainwreck. i just realized that she can easily be out-trainwrecked by bonnie. let's hope the mushroom kingdom doesn't burn down from all these trainwrecks!

scott: if bradley and doris are supposed to be a positive couple, iyzebel and scott are the negative couple. i feel the parallels here! if iyzebel and scott were on amazing race, they'd be a stereotypical bickering couple. yeah, hm, i guess that's what i predict out of scott.

thorne: man, i barely remember her. she was a premerge boot. i do remember liz from sfc14 tried to befriend her. she's probably getting pretty far this time around.

sierra: thorne's sister... i guess they'll have at least one heartwarming sister moment? for some reason, seeing her makes me think about which pair will VOTE OUT THEIR MOM!! bonnie will probably not care to keep sarah around(?), cassidy might vote out eli for #bigmoves, thorne might push sierra away, and it'll be sad :(

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:36 pm

@Congo: Oh god. Now I'm tempted to do TARFC and have Iyzebel and Scott on

Reply Congo, February 20th, 2017, 3:44 pm

@SWSU-Master: haha, they're totally "that" kind of couple, aren't they? babe, we're gonna get eliminated! babe!

Reply GaryHawkinsLandscaper, February 19th, 2017, 5:26 pm

Okay, first question: Why the *fuck* did you let an amoeba do the preview this round?!

Iyzebel: Really? No Ivan? (*sigh*) Well, it is what it is. To be honest, I kind of liked Iyzebel. I actually thought she was pretty funny, and unlike, um, *her*, the schtick never got old. That said, the fact that both Iyzebel and Damon are on this season scares me a bit. I don't think that rivalry can be done well a second time. But you know what, maybe she's warmed up to Damon in the past few years! ...Yeah, I don't think so.

Scott: Ohoho, this guy needs to get punched. This is another one of those guys who has "douche" written all over them. Even though I know nothing about this guy, I'll be shocked if I don't end up hating him.

Thorne: Huh. Didn't expect to see her again. I don't have a lot of feelings toward Thorne. I like her blunt sense of humor, but other than that, she does nothing for me. So... early merge boot?

Sierra: SHE VOTED OUT HER MO- sorry, wrong person. Sierra seems pretty nice, and I can kind of see her as a possible winner, but something tells me she might get a little too attached to her sister and end up screwing herself.

* Also, isn't it normal for the premieres to be 15 pages long?

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:36 pm

@GaryHawkinsLandscaper: I felt it would be funny to have Amelia do Iyzebel.

That came out wrong

Reply Niftyness, February 19th, 2017, 5:34 pm

Welcome Back, Ladies~ Iyzebel - The Red Oni to Scott's Blue Oni. Man, another SFC13 returnee! :D And the red-headed antagonist herself is back. OH GOD WHAT IF SHE'S ON A TRIBE WITH DAMON AGAIN! AND WITH HIS CLONE ANGELO NOW IN THE MIX OH MAN! I NEED to see their dynamic again with Angelo in the mix now! PLEASE SWSU! PLEASE!!! okay enough begging. Anyways, uh, yea I hope she goes far as an antagonistic force once again. She's a really good player of the game and just a great antagonist figure in general. Her aggressiveness could trigger some response from some of these players, though. I'm guessing she ends up going deep, however.

Scott - The Blue Oni to Iyzebel's Red Oni. He doesn't have a huge temper, doesn't want to fix Iyzebel's temper, and is devious in his own right? Seems like we have ourselves a potential levelheaded villain up our sleeves! Can't wait to see what tricks this guy ends up pulling, if any. As of right now with me knowing little of him, I'm guessing he'll go early merge after causing some havoc in the pre-merge. I'll be looking forward to seeing what he does though, as I'm a fan of the calmer, Blue Oni villain types.

Thorne - Well, speaking of Blue Oni and Red Oni, it's the Blue Oni Iyzebel! I honestly really loved watching Thorne in her original season and was a little crushed when she didn't make the jury phase, but then reading your little epitaph after she was voted out about her creator not wanting her to get a redemption arc...I felt satisfied with her story arc then. I gotta admit though, I'm surprised she's back if her creator didn't originally want her to get a redemption arc. What direction could she go in this time? Will she actually get redemption?? Will she go pre-jury once again??? She's a big question mark for me just due to the fact that she originally wasn't destined to get a redemption story arc but is back again. Soooo....I don't really know. Wait...wait! "Looks at things logically...on Survivor (...) there are emotional moves that don't follow logic." This seems to relate to the whole "Editing v. Logic" thing in SFC11, which makes me wonder...Thorne and Eli duo? That'd be really cool, seeing Thorne be Eli's new Paine. I'll keep my hopes up for now but I see a lot of potential with Thorne no matter how she places.

Sierra - Jeez, the emotion to Thorne's logic. The pairs in this reveal seem to balance each other out a bit in terms of personality...which makes me see even more potential of them going far or their dynamic being highlighted in the story. I see her helping Thorne out with the social game she lacked in SFC14 and allowing them to both go deep into the game together. God damn I just really really really want to see the dynamics of these two pairs specifically in this season. They're so interesting and enticing and so rich of possibility and urghh I can't wait!

Current Overall Predictions:
Bonnie - Early Merge
Sarah - Late Pre-Merge
Bowser - Early Boot
Bowser Jr. - Goes Deep (?)
Bradley - Mid Pre-Merge (rip if I'm right)
Doris - End Gamer
Brandi - REALLY Early Boot
Lake - Mid-Merge
Damon - Goes Deep (FTC Goat?)
Angelo - Goes Deep
Eli - Late Pre-Merge
Cassidy - Pre-Merge (?)
Iyzebel - Goes Deep (I hope)
Scott - Early Merge
Thorne - No clue of placement, but will impact the storyline of the season in a big way
Sierra - Merge

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:40 pm

@Niftyness: I gotta say, all of the relationship dynamics this season are all unique in their own way. It's really fun

Reply Guest (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 6:46 pm

Alright theory time.... So this is a theory on tribes and the remaining unknown returnee,mostly based on the preview.

In Panel 7,you can see Doris,Angelo,and Damon. There appears to be nothing that seems to support which tribe Doris is on,however she appears to be waiting on the other side of the block Angelo is scaling,so it's possible,she will be on Sarasa on the same time as Angelo and Damon. Angelo is very visibly speaking with a yellow bubble,which means at some point Angelo will be on Sarasa,the yellow tribe,likely at the beginning of the season. Damon is also holding what appears to be the yellow tribe flag,which means Damon will also be on Sarasa at the same point as Angelo and likely Doris.

Panel 8 is a bit clearer,it appears to be the two tribes scaling a ladder. On the left side,we can very clearly see Angelo scaling the ladder and Tialayla and what appears to be a catlike male character waiting on the bottom. So that means Tia and who I assume to be her male loved one will be on the same tribe,likely Sarasa as Angelo,and possibly by association,also Damon and Doris. On the right side of panel 8,we can see Bowser and Cassidy waiting at the bottom while Sierra scales the ladder. This can be assumed to be Kinopio,the pink tribe. There is also a tan redhaired female,waiting alongside Bowser/Cassidy. Many have predicted this to be the final unknown loved one,but I believe that instead this is a already revealed female. Think about it,there are already four red haired females so far(Brandi,Cassidy,Sierra,and Iyzebel). Why would SWSU include a 5th? So of the redhead females revealed,we know it's not Cassidy,because she is seen waiting at the bottom,or Sierra because she is scaling the ladder. My theory is that Iyzebel is the unknown female. Think about it,the hair shade and style matches,the outfit(black bikini and jean shorts)seems like something Iyzebel would wear,and she DOES seem considerably tanner from the last time she played.

On Panel 9,we can see Bowser and a woman in pink that I assume to be Sarah because the shade matches none of the others so far,the only others to wear pink are Lake,Eli,and Sierra and non did them match that shade. So we can assume they are swimming for different teams,and since Bowser is proven Kinopio,this means Sarah is likely Sarasa.

And finally,Panel 10 shows Lake,Cassidy,Bowser,and one other male running. This doesn't show much,since it seems to be a running shot. However,the male is interesting since he appears to be wearing a toupee with gray hair underneath,as even more interesting,since the unknown male seems to have the exact color eyes Vinnie does. I'd guess at Vinnie and Tia being the final returnees,with Tia's loved one being the cat male shown in in Panel 8 of the preview. Vinnie's loved one is unknown,although it may be the tan redhead in Panel 8 of the preview.

Who knows,it's just a theory,a SFC theory!

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:39 pm

@Guest: Interesting theory, but the only thing I would point out. I would consider Brandi/Sierra to be Brunettes. Not redheads.

Reply anime9001, February 20th, 2017, 10:48 pm

@Guest: Pretty nice analysis. Only correction I'm gonna say is that I'm fairly certain that was Bowser Jr. in the swimming panel. It's from the back so initially we're supposed to mistake it for Bowser, but he DOES look considerably skinnier than Bowser, and we can't tell the height too well due to the water...

Reply Pie31415, February 19th, 2017, 6:46 pm

I suppose it's time for me to rate all the contestants so far since I've fallen behind and didn't post opinions on the last few cast releases.

Bonnie: GTFO
Sarah: Oooh, she seems nice. Hopefully she is and makes it far ^_^
Bowser: Yessssss <3 I love him.
Bowser Jr.: Omggggggg, I love him even more <3 <3 Honestly one of my two favorite Mario characters with Yoshi being the other one.
Bradley/Stagg: HYPE He's amazing
Doris: Surprisingly my opinion of her is the same as my opinion of Sarah, which is funny seeing how different their loved ones (Can you really call Sarah Bonnie's "loved" one though?) are.
Brandi: Ew.
Lake: Ewwwwww
Damon: Yasssssssss
Angelo: Even more yasssssss xD
Eli: HYPEEEEEEE Could see him getting annoying if he lasts very long though.
Cassidy: Huh, honestly not much of an opinion of her so far.
Iyzebel: Stole Ivan's spot -__- (jk) Don't care for her.
Scott: Douche, gtfo
Thorne: :) Pretty cool.
Sierra: :) Seems cool too.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:41 pm

@Pie31415: Overall, I can handle the decent approval rating for the cast :D

Reply anime9001, February 20th, 2017, 10:49 pm

@SWSU-Master: Heh, if you couldn't handle poor approval then we wouldn't have Bonnie again :p

Reply Blastoise_FTW (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 6:52 pm

I JUST remembered today was a cast release day

Lyzebel: me: Oh thank god Amelia isn't on this season (scrolls down two inches) OH GOD DAMMIT

Scott: Engaged to Lyzebel.. Poor Bastard. He seems to enjoy it though. I think he'll make it much farther than his fiance.

Thorne: Meh. If we HAVE to have another SFC14 character I would've preferd Yuki or JoJo, but we had to have someone from the pre-jury crowd. Will at least make jury judging from past experiences with returning pre mergers.

Sierra: All I got to say is that she gets eliminated because she was trying to bond with her sister. I feel confident that's how it's gonna go down.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:42 pm

@Blastoise_FTW: That would be a harsh reason to target Sierra lol. But all's fair in Survivor

Reply Punxy (Guest), February 20th, 2017, 1:23 am

@Blastoise_FTW: Her name is Iyzebel not Lyzebel.

Reply lstaff4, February 19th, 2017, 7:17 pm

Iyz': Ya?
Scott: Eh'
Thorne: Eh'
Sierra: Hm'

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:42 pm

@lstaff4: Yat'

Reply Tinyhammer (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 7:47 pm

Iyzebel: Yeahhhhh... I don't strongly hate her but I am not really happy to see her back.

Scott: Hmm... I don't know. I could tell that I would either like or hate him and as much as I hate to agree with Amelia, I am leaning towards the latter.

Thorne: I actually liked her blunt personality and her role as a semi-villain. I can't wait to see what she will bring.

Sierra: She seems cute. I can't wait to see what the interactions between her and her sister will be like.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:43 pm

@Tinyhammer: You love Amelia. Don't hide it :3

Reply anime9001, February 19th, 2017, 9:02 pm

Ya know, I was wondering why everyone was worried about Amelia coming back when they saw they redhead and I was thinking "Was she really that bad?" Interestingly enough, SWSU reminded me of what I had forgotten....

Iyzebel: Huh. Ya know, out of post-merge SFC 13 characters, there were very few *bad* options. While I really REALLY wanted Sasha, really anyone besides Tapioca and maybe Luna would have been good. As for Iyzebel particularly, I think she's one of the only "I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING" girls that I sorta liked throughout the series, so that works. That being said, I wasn't sure if SWSU was going to go for the Damon/Iyzebel duo once again. Seemed like a good time for Damon to fly on his own without the nag at his side. Can't really blame him for it though, they did make a great pair. And the bro-duo is going to make it even better~

Scott: Heh. I remember that bombshell with Orwell. "YOU HAVE A BOYFRIEND!?" Seems we get to see that relationship in action~

Thorne: Huh. Wouldn't have pegged her as a returnee. Not particularly unwelcome, but she didn't stand out too much either. At least I remember her ok though, so she can't have been too bad. Looking forward to her relationship dynamic.

Sierra: I like her already! Past that, I remember SWSU talking about that he almost used Thorne for the sister dynamic. Interesting that both couples here were ones brought up but never seen in the past. I don't feel that enough contestants talk about their outside relationships enough (outside of ones you see from family visitors) for that to be a coincidence....not that it really matters if it is or not.

So going off that, question, were a number of the contestants this season chosen based off of loved ones brought up on the past? I'm just curious.

Btw, looking forward to that 15 page premiere~

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:45 pm

@anime9001: Several of them were yes. Which is why some of the choices might seem a little odd compared to other All Star Seasons

Reply qazox, February 19th, 2017, 9:34 pm

Izyebel--- I hope she has a redemption arc, bht probably won't.

Scott-- he looks to be the type that would through Izy to the wolves, and then ask for the leftovers.

Thorne-- picks up where she left off and possibly makes F4.

Sierra-- will be so under the radar she makes merge before anyone realizes shes there.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 19th, 2017, 9:45 pm

@qazox: I'm sure Scott would have no problem eating Iyzebel <Lenny Face>

Reply dat4yc, February 19th, 2017, 9:56 pm

And this cast just keeps on giving!

Iyzebel: She was immensely entertaining in SFC13 and I doubt she'll tone it down even a little bit this time. I just hope that Damon can avoid her wrath. (Late pre-merge)

Scott: Well he kinda looks like a creepy fuck. Intrigued on what he's gonna bring, but I'm guessing its not gonna be much and he'll flame out pretty early. (Early boot)

Thorne: So glad she's back, felt she had plenty more story to go after her ouster in her season. Here's to hoping she'll be a bit more successful! I'm thinking she may even be an endgame goat (End game)

Sierra: Huh don't really have much of a read on her. She seems like she'll do pretty well, and I'm assuming her dichotomy with Thorne will be significant story line. (Mid merge)

Reply SWSU-Master, February 21st, 2017, 5:17 pm

@dat4yc: Smug Smiles can come off very Creepy

Reply Yo (Guest), February 19th, 2017, 10:02 pm

Yeah, Thorne FTW! I am hyped for this season!

Reply SWSU-Master, February 21st, 2017, 5:17 pm

@Yo: YAY!

Reply RedBeryl, February 19th, 2017, 11:13 pm

Aaaaaaand we're back to our regularly-scheduled programming of not-very-nice people.

Iyzebel: She's not the worst, but I was hoping for someone... more. That with the current crop of other strong personalities... I'm already cringing.

Scott: I already hate him. He just spells 'Bad News' to me. Still, it could also be someone that spices up the game, in a very destructive sense.

Thorne: Oh. OH. This intrigues me. This intrigues me a great deal. I doubt she'll be too invested in the game, but when in this crowd and with her sister with her... I expect there to be good--nay, awesome moments.

Sierra: Someone nice! Someone caring! Someone... that probably won't last too long. Depending on Thorne, she might even be out here alone. Maaaaaan, that's sad.

Also, 15-page Premiere? That's like... 5 more pages than usual. I approve~

Reply SWSU-Master, February 21st, 2017, 5:18 pm

@RedBeryl: Yes, that is very good math~

Reply Sonofhades, February 20th, 2017, 7:35 am

Welp, time for another evaluation. This one might be more caustic than usual.

Izyebel: Oh, brilliant. On one hand, I enjoyed her antagonism with Damon. On the other hand, I can see no scenario in which she becomes a likable character. She's gone before the Jury for sure.

Scott: A living conflict, waiting to throw anyone to the wolves just to succeed. Still has more potential for entertainment than Izy.

Thorne: Actually an interesting pick, given her focus on logic and lack of sentimentality.; If she can convince people that she's gained a little humanity, I'm sure she could be a finalist.

Sierra: She seems like a nice and fairly adorable person. That might not be a good thing with this cast.

And for old times' sake: Screw you Amelia, you hypocritical hipster. You may be fictional, but seeing you again gives me heartburn.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 21st, 2017, 5:18 pm

@Sonofhades: Quite an accomplishment for Fictional Characters

Reply SkySurfer, February 21st, 2017, 1:04 am

Iyzebel: This is like the time when Bonnie returned. She will have to play a quite different game and ally with the villains in the first place. Personally, I'd prefer if she leaves pre-merge this time.
Scott: Wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the new Baxxter. Many people will hate him for what he's about to do but I can imagine him to be a jury member, too.
Thorne: She was rude, she was negative but I still like the fact that she returned because she was one of the cooler characters in her season. Last time she was robbed of the first jury spot, I want her to make it this time.
Sierra: Two sisters making the merge again? No, I personally think I'll like her character but she seems like someone who leaves premerge when there's a more complicated TribalCounil decision and her tribe prefers to keep the stronger target.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 21st, 2017, 5:18 pm

@SkySurfer: Thorne was more No Nonsense than Negative.

Reply Yumichika Time, February 21st, 2017, 3:33 pm

I have a question for you or anyone to answer. What are the odds that this final male (likely Vinnie) has his NIECE to come along w/ him (as the 2nd 3-Timer here)? If so, how much do you want to bet her name is something close to Lauren as well? XP

Reply Niftyness, February 21st, 2017, 4:52 pm

@Yumichika Time: That's an oddly specific thing to ask :P

Reply TurnbullMSGA55 (Guest), February 21st, 2017, 4:53 pm

Love this series! Wish I could partake in such follies myself! Still working on it myself. I will give my opinions on everyone right now, and give my opinions for the last four players later tonight.

BONNIE - Totally robbed. Deserved the win in her first season. Who cares if she hurts your feelings? She played the season. Cherman was the worst winner by far.

SARAH - A therapist huh? Sounds good. Hopefully she can keep Bonnie in line, but honestly, she's not worth the trouble. She can handle herself.

BOWSER - The king of koopas himself! Now I hate cheaters, and he and Enter cheated throughout SFC12. However, no Enter, no cheating. He will fail.

BOWSER JR. - Bowser's son has no business being here. Survivor is a tough game, and I don't think he can handle it.

SGT. STAGG - Never liked military guys who think they can run the show. However, glad to see him back, and hopefully he can play better than before.

DORIS - Good, kind hearted woman who will help her husband win the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

BRANDI - People say paranoia ruined her game. I say it didn't. She played a solid game that she couldn't back up.

LAKE - LOL. Brandi's pawn. Easy goat at the end. Old guys can't do shit.

DAMON - I don't get the hype. I really don't.

ANGELO - Seems to be a better clone of Damon. Hopefully he'll make the big moves Damon cannot bear to make.

ELI - Hated his edgic talk bullshit, but was the best player of SFC11 despite that, so robbed as well. Want to like him, but he's locked to pre merge. Too bad, kid.

CASSIDY - Sounds like this gal talks my language! And hey, a woman Jeff Probst likes is a girl I can root for!

IYZEBEL - I can't who would be more unbearable to live with; Amelia or Iyzebel.

SCOTT - Patient man. Looks like a good player.

THORNE - I like the bad girls. She's going to show everyone what she's made of.

SIERRA - Cute, but I wouldn't trust her. She's got more going on than what meets the eye.

Reply SWSU-Master, February 21st, 2017, 5:20 pm

@TurnbullMSGA55: Saying Cherman is the worst winner is a pretty unpopular opinion lol

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