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SFC15 Day 39 FTC Jury Questions

June 20th, 2016, 9:57 pm

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Author's Comments:

Reply SWSU-Master, June 20th, 2016, 9:57 pm

Now that the grillings done, time to serve up some votes.

User's Comments:

Reply landis963, June 20th, 2016, 10:05 pm

One perfect win for Taro, coming right up.

Also Ky's "question" was adorable.

Reply DrMarble, June 20th, 2016, 10:05 pm

Well, its looking more and more like a blowout. Heres my predictions:

Gekkota: Dustin
Marie: Taro
Sylvia: Taro
Cordellia: Taro
Leah: Taro
Shaega: Taro
Brandi: Taro
Zach: Taro
Ky: Taro

Gekkota is still up in the air I think, so it might still be unanimous. Also, Taro did not receive as much flak for the sushi poisoning as I was expecting. I figured that Brandi was the most likely to call him out on that. Also, not as much Dustin bashing as I was hoping for, but I suppose you dont want to make it any more obvious then it already is.

Reply Tailslover13, June 20th, 2016, 10:22 pm

@DrMarble: Duh, of course Taro didn't receive any flack! Leah pretty much summed it up: NO ONE CARES! It doesn't matter if a few whiny fans watching care; it's clear the people actually playing the damn game had no sympathy for Sylvia, Shaega or Dustin and easily considered it a good move for Taro. So, this better just put the damn issue to rest already. Enough is enough.

Reply DrMarble, June 20th, 2016, 10:27 pm

@Tailslover13: I just felt that if he recieved criticism for it, it would help put a Taro win in doubt, instead of this entire thing just being a formality.

Reply Tailslover13, June 20th, 2016, 10:29 pm

@DrMarble: Is that really so bad? I kinda prefer it this way. I don't WANT doubt that Taro wins. Even CONSIDERING a Dustin win hurts my head...

Reply DrMarble, June 20th, 2016, 10:32 pm

@Tailslover13: It helps add drama. For example, Tapioca revealing she was smart in Season 13. Going into it, Jim was 100% garenteed to win. He still won (Thank God, Jim was awesome, and Tapioca was the worst), but it helped make things more dramatic, instead of just waiting for this to end already.

Reply Tailslover13, June 20th, 2016, 10:33 pm

@DrMarble: Seriously? I never had any doubt personally. I mean...I pretty much knew her strategy wouldn't work. But, I guess it's different for everyone.

For me, I'm happy knowing Taro is winning no matter what. To me, it still kinda IS dramatic...because I want to see if he gets a perfect game or not. THAT'S the drama~

Reply Vilecheese, June 20th, 2016, 10:08 pm

Okay, honestly most of the grilling Dustin got here was pretty unwarranted and he actually explained his game pretty dang well. The times he messed up were when people just kept being mad at him.

And...um, did Paranoia infect Taro after Shaega's question? That Zach answer kinda threw me off guard.

Reply ChronoAlone, June 20th, 2016, 10:10 pm

Wow. Dustin sucked. No surprise there.

Reply DrMarble, June 20th, 2016, 10:11 pm

@ChronoAlone: That was probably one of the worst FTC performances ever. He failed to provide good answers WAY to many times.

Reply ChronoAlone, June 20th, 2016, 10:18 pm

@DrMarble: It's Dustin, what do you expect? As much of a dumbass Sylvia was, she would've answered these questions MUCH better. Hell, BILLY would've done a better job answering the Jury's questions.

Reply Sonofhades, June 20th, 2016, 10:29 pm

@ChronoAlone: That's a bit of an understatement. When asked if he would use the money responsibly, he brought up how he was prone to doing drugs and partying. That's a new level of stupidity.

Reply ChronoAlone, June 20th, 2016, 10:35 pm

@Sonofhades: Yeah. What an idiot.

Reply GaryHawkinsLandscaper, June 20th, 2016, 10:13 pm

SWSU

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Okay, I'm not entirely sure if this is going to be a unanimous decision. If anyone's going to vote for Dustin, I'd guess it would be either Gekkota or Cordelia, though I'm not sure why anyone would do something that cruel to themselves. Are pity votes up in the air?

Reply Congo, June 20th, 2016, 10:15 pm

what the? the word bubble colors became swapped during zach's question.

anyway, taro is still winning. good for him! he'll be able to take a little more time off from his real sushi shack.

Reply Tailslover13, June 20th, 2016, 10:15 pm

Let's over-analyze this thing, since I can and it's my job...and it's also fun:

GEKKOTA - Her question was pretty good, actually. If she was more insightful like this in the game, she would've placed better.

Taro's Answer: Very good, as I expected.

Dustin's Answer: Ugh...your surfer lingo is just annoying at this point and I'm kinda tuning it out. Not that impressed.

MARIE - Fair enough. Good reason to vote for someone when you don't have anything against either one. Alright.

Taro's Answer: Very sweet and very good answer.

Dustin's Answer: A bit stupid at first, but...honestly another solid answer. Good for him.

SYLVIA - Slightly bitter-sounding, but...it was warranted and deserved. I don't blame her.

Taro's Response: Nice work. Once again making Dustin look moronic. Beautiful.

Dustin's Response: Yeah...you dug your own grave with Sylvia. There's no way you're getting her vote. Idiot.

CORDELIA - Ugh...even know she's a cocky bitch. Just shut up. Points for the amusing way of asking her question, though.

Taro's Answer: That...well, it was alright. Maybe not so smart saying you orchestrated Cordelia's elimination, but...alright. Decent.

LEAH - Reasonable statement, and I'm glad she's showing maturity for once. That's a first. Kinda reminds me of the question Fabio got asked in Nicaragua.

Dustin's Answer: Oh for the love of God...seriously? You dumbass. And, this PROVES that nobody CARED Dustin and Sylvia got poisoned! You see people? NO ONE CARES!

SHAEGA - Good question towards both of them. I'm impressed by your maturity too, for once.

Taro's Answer: Man you're good, Taro. Even those that hate you HAVE to admit how smart you are, even if you're against Dustin. Nice.

Dustin's Answer: Just keep digging that grave, buddy.

BRANDI - Good question. I kinda wanted to know this myself.

Taro's Answer: Still didn't quite answer as nicely as I had hoped, but...still a solid answer and sweet enough. I believe it was genuine in the end, too.

ZACH - Somewhat boring, but logical question coming from you, Zach.

Dustin's Answer: Eh...okay, sure. Your way of talking and explaining things is even worse than Tai's, though, I'm sorry to say.

Taro's Answer: I...don't really get what he was saying, but...it was smart?

KY - Wow...uh...I was NOT expecting that at all from him. But...well, maybe I SHOULD'VE been expecting that. He really is the best character of the season, and this just furthers that point. He's amazing. I got teary just listening to that speech. Even tops Ventious for best speech ever.

VOTE PREDICTIONS:
Taro wins 9-0.

Reply Misterjakester (Guest), June 20th, 2016, 10:15 pm

In case it wasn't obvious enough Taro was winning

I wonder whose FTC performance was worse, Dustin's, or Matt's.

Reply DrMarble, June 20th, 2016, 10:23 pm

@Misterjakester: Matt is probably still worse.

Reply coolkyledude, June 20th, 2016, 10:15 pm

gg Taro

Reply Malladus, June 20th, 2016, 10:21 pm

Dustin's not getting more than 2 votes. And that's if he is lucky. Still expecting a perfect win for Taro.

Reply Guesty (Guest), June 20th, 2016, 10:24 pm

Ummmmm #PityvotesforDustin ?

I used this, because if Taro is our first perfect winner, I will vomit. Like, he is just so ughhhh.

Reply anime9001, June 20th, 2016, 10:25 pm

Huh. To be honest, I didn't find Dustin's answers to be too bad. Especially for the more in-depth questions. Like, he actually gave answers that sounded like he put more thought into them than the more mundane questions like "what would you do with the money?"

Past that, I'm a little disappointed that this looks like it's gonna be a complete blowout. I can't tell which part annoyed me more, that half of them spent this time just to grill Dustin even though he didn't deserve it nearly that badly or that Taro was able to smooze his way all over the place.

Btw, it's obvious once again that Taro is winning in more or less a blowout, but I kinda hope Zach at least votes for Dustin given that Dustin is the one who taught him the importance of the social game that he brought up here.

Reply Guest, June 20th, 2016, 10:30 pm

@anime9001: The grilling was pretty petty.

Reply Tailslover13, June 20th, 2016, 10:30 pm

@anime9001: Ky pretty much did the same thing...only better. Yes, Dustin STARTED Zach on the path of being more social...but then betrayed him. Ky wanted Zach to be more social, too, and DIDN'T betray him. So, I think that plays a part.

Reply Guest, June 20th, 2016, 10:36 pm

@Tailslover13: This is also true. Dustin did help, but Ky did play a significant part in this. Not to mention being on Zach's team longer and not betraying him as Tails mentioned.

Reply dat4yc, June 20th, 2016, 10:36 pm

@anime9001: Not sure why it being blowout means it's disappointing. I don't feel that every vote needs to be unexpected or nail-biting in order to be entertaining. But that's probably just a personal preference.

Reply Sonofhades, June 20th, 2016, 10:41 pm

@dat4yc: You do have a point. This isn't like Season 8, where an unlikable character coasted to the end because everyone else was incompetent. This is a likable character who fought his way to this point with his formidable competence.

Reply dat4yc, June 20th, 2016, 10:56 pm

@Sonofhades: Yeah, if the winner sucked then I'd have a problem, but Taro's a pretty good winner so I'm not all that upset that it's this obvious.

Reply anime9001, June 20th, 2016, 11:03 pm

@Sonofhades: I have to disagree (which I will be going in depth on in the finale).

In season 8, an unlikable character coasted to the end because everyone else was incompetent.

Here, a likable character coasted to the end because he was unrealistically perfect while everyone else was incompetent.

I don't plan on getting into they whys here, but that's the short version of my take on Taro this season.

Reply DrMarble, June 20th, 2016, 10:47 pm

@dat4yc: Im just not a fan of the fact that this is all just a formality. Heck, even SHAEGA would have been a more threatening opponent in the final 2.

Reply dat4yc, June 20th, 2016, 10:57 pm

@DrMarble: Yeah I see what your saying, it just bothers me less than some people I guess.

Reply anime9001, June 20th, 2016, 10:58 pm

@dat4yc: It's disappointing because Taro is able to keep up his whole "I'm perfect in every single way" identity up until the very end. Taro's writing has been bugging me quite a lot and I was hoping for at least a fracture in his plot armor would be shown.

That's why this was disappointing to me.

Reply dat4yc, June 20th, 2016, 11:06 pm

@anime9001: Ah, I've never liked the term plot armor... I just don't mind that he played a seemingly flawless game because I don't think that every winner necessarily needs to play a game with flaws. It almost is more refreshing that we have such a dominant winner.

Reply anime9001, June 20th, 2016, 11:09 pm

@dat4yc:*grumble grumble*

I'd defend my take on it better, but I've told myself I'm holding off until the finale and that's when I'm gonna do it. I'll hold off on the battle royale in the comments until then :p

Reply dat4yc, June 20th, 2016, 11:13 pm

@anime9001: Oh okay. Look forward to it XD

Reply coolkyledude, June 21st, 2016, 1:10 am

@dat4yc: I agree with him here. Taro has not had any direct opposition to his game. That's boring, at least in my opinion. It's hard to be satisfied with a winner if they barely had to do anything to win. Taro's issue is that he doesn't have flaws that he had to overcome, he's just more or less perfect (and the flaw he *did* have, weak physical strength, never mattered in the long run to his survival.

What's worse is that the one time Taro *did* face adversity, all he could do was poison the competition - which I wouldn't have had a problem with if he faced consequences for it. But he didn't. He got by scot-free and the jury loves him still.

Like, Shaega cheated too, but he got consequences for it. He became a target. People wanted him out. He didn't actually *leave*, but there was tension in that he *could've*. Taro does the same, everybody forgives him immediately.

Reply Tailslover13, June 21st, 2016, 4:46 am

@coolkyledude: But therein lies the answer: Taro's strategy worked for the season he was put into. Taro stated several times that his strategy was to sit back, learn about people, be friendly to them, feed them, and just listen to them. Shaega never did that. So when Shaega cheats and acts like an asshole, he has nothing to fall back on and say: "Well, I WAS nice all the way up to this point, so you can forgive me for these actions, right?" Taro was basically nice from the start, so when he does something that people view as just a measure to survive...they're able to overlook it, because one damning thing isn't enough to bring someone's track record down.

I think Anime is failing to understand just how strong Taro's strategy was, and...some people just play perfect games like that. J.T. and Cochran both did it, and Jeremy technically did it, too. Cochran never really faced opposition, either. True, people tend to hate Caramoan, but I love the season, so...to each his own. The point is, all games aren't created equal. And if the character is likable or nice enough, why should it matter? Taro wasn't BORING, like Barney or Melanie. He wasn't just getting lucky, like Lola or Ker. He really did play a good game.

Reply coolkyledude, June 21st, 2016, 9:15 am

@Tailslover13: I think you're missing my point (and maybe anime's too? Not 100% sure if we're thinking the same thing). The point I'm trying to make, and my problem with the season is far more meta. It's less so a dig at Taro's game, and more at some of the writing. That's a huge difference between SFC and the show, and it's both SFC's greatest strength and greatest weakness: SFC is fiction.

On one hand, it allows SWSU more creative freedom and allows him to experiment with stuff like powers, or meta-abilities like Eli, or the pairs from SFC14 (your mileage may vary on whether they were good, either way the fact remains that they were new and interesting in some form). On the other hand, it restricts SWSU in having to maintain our suspension of disbelief - it's way easier for the story of the season to lose us if too much unrealistic stuff happens and characters get by scot-free for things they should be punished for.

Survivor has the advantage that no matter who wins, no matter how easy it was for them to win or how much they got away with, we can believe that it *would* happen because it *did* happen. We can just say it was stuff that was left out of the edit or something. It might be boring, it might be unlikable, but suspension of disbelief isn't an issue for the show. Whether it's JT or Cochran or Jeremy, they won IRL - you can have a problem with the season or winner, but in the end you can't blame anyone for it, because it happened, period.

Basically, SFC has the responsibility to explain what happens in a believable way and 'be realistic,' if you get what I'm trying to say. Have you ever read or watched something in which the protagonist doesn't face any adversity and gets away with a lot of things? It's boring, pretty annoying, and most of all unsatisfying, right? That's, to an extent, Taro to some of us (although I'll give you that there's someone else this season who was faaaar worse). Taro's never been in danger outside of the F4, and at that point he poisons everyone to win immunity and the jury completely forgives him for it. I wouldn't have nearly as much of an issue with him if at least one jury member grilled him over it. But they didn't, at all. On a related note, this is why people still liked Shaega after he fucked with the challenge - as a direct result of his villainy, people stopped wanting to work with him and began targeting him.

I hope that adequately explains why I and probably some others aren't a fan of Taro getting the first perfect win. I don't really have a problem with him as a winner even, and while I like Dustin I realize that there's a good reason for him to lose :P but I feel like he hasn't had enough go wrong for him this season to have earned that perfect win. And even so, I wouldn't find it satisfying. I want to stress that I'm not even trying to change your opinion, just explain mine. Taro's likable. I don't blame you for liking him because of that at all. I just personally need more to justify somebody winning.

This was longer than I intended. *TL;DR: SFC needs to be realistic. Taro getting a perfect win after barely facing any adversity isn't realistic, and IMO isn't satisfying.*

Reply Tailslover13, June 21st, 2016, 9:31 am

@coolkyledude: Maybe it's just me, but if the protagonist is likable enough...I honestly don't care if they don't have to face adversity or gets away with a lot of things. But, I know I'm in the minority there...as I usually am...so that doesn't matter. Plus, Ky had to go through adversity...through no fault of his own...and he's the best character of the season (in my eyes), so what you're saying is fairly logical and reasonable. Taro isn't quite as likable as him, so...seeing some sort of resistance, I suppose, could've been desired.

SWSU doesn't tend to write the best stories, but...I have a feeling that he might have an explanation for why Taro's game was so perfect after the season ends. Don't quote me on that, but I'm sure he'll answer any questions we have once the time comes...as Anime stated himself.

This is honestly why I wanted Ky vs. Sylvia as the final 2. That way, there clearly wasn't going to be a perfect game, and we would've gotten a worthy winner either way. I'm on record saying that I don't care for Sylvia...at the moment. But, still, out of the whole final 6...she was still the 3rd best person behind Ky and Taro (for me). But, as it is...it's Taro vs. Dustin. I mean...I'm sorry, but a 9-0 vote is kinda warranted. You can't in all fairness possibly award Dustin a single vote and back it up with any reason other than a spite vote against Taro.

Plus...as Taro, what kind of challenges was he SUPPOSED to face? He saw how crazy his tribe was...so he took his role as he saw fit, and got Ky as his best friend (probably his best move, when you stop to think about it), and...well, the rest is history. And, you COULD argue that Taro working to not get Ky eliminated early, starting with Tamara's inquiries, was him "overcoming a challenge" of sorts. But...ultimately, what was Taro really SUPPOSED to overcome? He's a character that...well, really didn't have anything to overcome! You can't just make stuff up or force challenges/events to happen that just don't logically make sense and whose sole purposes is to make a character more worthy of a win in the end. As a writer myself, you can't shoehorn randomness in to make a character better without it feeling awkward.

So, I get what you're saying; trust me, I do. I guess I just don't mind too much in the end, because (for me) Taro is likable enough, I don't really see what possible things he could've done differently, and he played a game that not too many others have successfully pulled off before him.

Reply coolkyledude, June 21st, 2016, 9:41 am

@Tailslover13: And that's totally fair. I was just explaining my point :)

Nah, I'm pretty sure it's been explained by now. I can see that, I'm just not a big fan.

I agree. I actually think Ky would've been a more satisfying winner (provided he was toned down a bit) because, while there are more interesting ways to win than challengewhoring one's way to the end, I would be able to say that he was in danger but still stayed positive despite that and be happy. Plus if a lot of Sylvia's dumb moments didn't happen *cough* telling Taro she was targeting him *cough* it would've been close between them and either would've been a good winner.

I disagree about Dustin having no good winnable traits, but we've been here so I'll leave it at that XD

I mean, it's too late now, but someone, anyone, catching on to how good a game he was playing. Which I guess did happen at F4, when he poisoned everyone... then somebody - Shaega, I guess? - grilling him about it at FTC. Maybe someone could mention that he never really made any moves (as the ones he made, he deliberately let others take the credit). I'd do that, to start. But, true, there isn't much you can do without giving him a single vote throughout the game and still having him get all the jury votes.

I mean, we had to have a perfect winner eventually, and there are far worse candidates than Taro :P

Reply anime9001, June 21st, 2016, 5:37 pm

@coolkyledude: This is a very good summation of my thoughts, although I plan to go into more detail (or at least different details) later.

Reply Shyruni, June 21st, 2016, 12:02 pm

@anime9001: For me, it was a mixture of two things: one, that he coasted through the game without doing anything, and two, that it was obvious that this would happen. Ever since merge, it seemed obvious to me that he would make it this far. He was the most sensible character, staying in the sidelines in a cutthroat game. Not only is his victory boring, it was incredibly predictable. Even from close to the beginning, while I couldn't have expected him to make it far, he seemed like a character that could win.

I'm not really arguing that Taro doesn't deserve to win (though there are others I would have preferred), it's more he's the kind of winner I don't really appreciate. But I suppose in the end, it's the result that will please the fans the most, so it is probably the best result.

Reply Sonofhades, June 20th, 2016, 10:27 pm

Yeah, Taro has this. Dustin performed better than I expected, but he really struck out in the end. Seriously, you admit you party and do drugs to the person who's asking you if you'll use the money responsibly? Taro answered rather well. His #Blindside and "Herding cats on cocaine" answers were the best. :3

Reply dat4yc, June 20th, 2016, 10:32 pm

Yeah looking like SFC's first perfect game for Taro. Dustin did a little better than I thought but still not nearly good enough.

Now to get started writing character rankings for tomorrow!

Reply qazox, June 20th, 2016, 10:46 pm

Taro wins... what else to say?

Reply RedBeryl, June 21st, 2016, 12:42 am

Wow, no love for Dustin. Then again, compared to Taro, he's made a few questionable decisions that... understandably were quite difficult to make. Still, some were just oddly made, which makes me wonder if the stress was just too much for the surfer dude to handle.

As for Taro, he played the game extremely well. Kept his cool, let others throw themselves off the cliffs, steered the target off his back and stayed loyal to those that mattered to him. The only black marks on him would probably be his dubious poisoning and throwing Dustin under the bus (which is hilarious to watch, I must admit).

All that's left is the finals... I hope we don't have to wait super-long for the next season. I need my Survivor fix!

Reply Yumichika Time, June 21st, 2016, 1:24 am

I know that I'm late here but, yeah, it's a Taro Victory regardless. & even IF there was a better FIGHT than expected from Blondie here, he still failed PRETTY miserably overall. W/ that said, I (we mostly) Decree that we have, our 1st EVER PERECT Winner overall! ^-^

Reply Blastoise_FTW, June 21st, 2016, 7:20 am

Blah Blah Blah look I got a game of Mafia coming up I need to make this quick

Good Answers by both, Sylvia is a bitter bitch (And she looks retarded) and Ky is awesome as usual. If there's ever another All Stars, I NEED to see Mike and Ky together. Like I might need to see that in order to live.

Now.. It's time.. FOR THE FINAL VOTE PREDICTIONS( This time not in alphabetical order)

Gekkota: Taro

Cordelia: Taro

Zach: Taro

Marie: Taro

Brandi: Either or, leaning towards Taro

Leah: Taro

Ky: Taro

Sylvia: Taro

Shaega: I was gonna say Dustin, but I think it's more likely Taro

9-0, sorry Dustin, good effort though. Congrats Taro!

Reply HungryScorpion (Guest), June 21st, 2016, 9:05 am

@Blastoise_FTW: It's fine if you don't like my character and all, but you don't have to mock her appearance.

Reply Blastoise_FTW, June 21st, 2016, 12:46 pm

@HungryScorpion: Hey it's not your fault.. SWSU didn't sprite her properly.

Reply Dustin's Mom (Guest), June 21st, 2016, 8:18 am

I think Dustin wins 9-0.

Reply spinfur, June 21st, 2016, 9:54 am

That mistake where the color bubbles are switched on Zachs question are messing with my OCD :S

Reply SkySurfer (Guest), June 21st, 2016, 1:27 pm

Ouch, I wouldn't love to switch places with Dustin here. He obviously didn't spend a single minute on preparing himself for the questioning so it should be interesting to see if this becomes a perfect win for Taro like Barney's or if Dustin gets one or two pity votes.

A couple of good questions were asked even by someone like Brandi but I would have gladly skipped Cordelia's. If someone cannot hide the fact he/she is a sore loser then every panel on this survivor is a wasted panel.

Just two comics left I guess...

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