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SFC15 Day 30 Tribal Council

May 17th, 2016, 8:52 pm

Average Rating: 5.00
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Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 9:59 pm

After learning the truth, it was the accusations he made that flipped the vote. Zach is Eliminated.

When I first decided on the theme for this season. Zach was one of the first people I cast since he fit the theme of the season so well, a well rounded character with a clear superpower. He was one of the key characters in the story, taking the role as... pretty much the Hero on the Supers Tribe, if there was ever an issue, Zach usually had his hand or paw on the pulse and was right most of the time.

He was the voice of reason against Xeradonus, Daisuke and Juli, and was key in rebuilding the Collapsing Tortana Tribe after the swap, but once the normals took control of the game, Zach would have to be one of their first casualties. I had debated switching him and Gekkota in the boot order, but his plot with Shaega and Paranoia was too interesting of an arc to not explore, so that's why I kept him longer.

Zach offered a bunch of great content, and fought his heart out, but in the end this is where he has to leave

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Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 10:05 pm

Damn. The first elimination since Daisuke that I'm not happy about. Curse you, Shaega, you cheating asshole. And screw you, Brandi and Marie, for doing that to Zach. And ESPECIALLY screw Dustin for being a two-faced bastard. Going into this, and throughout the first few episodes, I never expected to really like or even care for Zach. He just seemed like one of those generic male characters that are likable, strategic, and not much else. Kinda like Hogan, or Joe, or Marc, or Barney, or Roth, or other boring males that are generally likable, but not that interesting otherwise. I really liked Zach's overall terms of story, which is something I don't really support, but whatever. He started off as a boring strategy bot, siding with the dull characters (Gekkota, Luna), and not really socializing much with his other tribe-mates. When he was finally forced to socialize with people like Ky, Taro, Dustin and Leah, he became...nice. Seeing him out of his comfort zone and vulnerable was funny. He isn't an all-time favorite, and definitely not an All-Star, but I liked him.

1. Ky (Perfect)
2. Taro (Adore)
3. Marie (Adore)
4. Daisuke (Love)
5. Zach (Love)
6. Leah (Love)
7. Xeradonus (Love)
8. Freddy (Love)
9. Billy (Love)
10. Brandi (Neutral)
11. Lea (Neutral)
12. Juli (Dislike)
13. Tamara (Dislike)
14. Shaega (Hate)
15. Luna (Hate)
16. Sylvia (Hate)
17. Dustin (Hate)
18. Gekkota (Hate)
19. Cha'Telle (Loathe)
20. Cordelia (Loathe)

1. Ky (Perfect)
2. Taro (Adore)
3. Marie (Love)
4. Daisuke (Love)
5. Zach (Love)
6. Leah (Love)
7. Xeradonus (Love)
8. Freddy (Love)
9. Billy (Love)
10. Lea (Neutral)
11. Brandi (Dislike)
12. Juli (Dislike)
13. Tamara (Dislike)
14. Luna (Hate)
15. Sylvia (Hate)
16. Shaega (Hate)
17. Dustin (Hate)
18. Gekkota (Hate)
19. Cha'Telle (Loathe)
20. Cordelia (Loathe)

PERFECT - Ky remains the only one worthy of being in this area, and I honestly don't think we've even seen the best he can bring, so he still has a lot of story left to tell. I really hope he can at least make the finale, even if he doesn't win. He's just awesome.

ADORE - Taro remains the only one in this category for this episode, since he and Ky are just a great duo. Both of them are smart, both of them can be funny, and both are talented in their own ways. Ky just remains better with how much he exudes and showcases, but Taro is still wonderful and quite a delight. He kinda reminds me of a subdued, lesser powered Donovan.

LOVE - Marie moves down into this area because of voting out Zach over Shaega, especially when it should've been obvious he was the one who possessed her. I mean, I get WHY she did it, but it still leaves me disappointed in her. Leah is also the only other person in this list, since she's the only Super left alongside Ky and Taro. Leah is clearly the distraction Super, though, so she isn't winning. If a Super is winning, it'll be Ky or Taro. That said, I still like how Leah remains loyal.

DISLIKE - Ugh. I knew it wouldn't last long for Brandi's redemption. Yes, it was technically Shaega cleverly screwing with Zach to make him accuse him of being the culprit, which in turn made Brandi not want to trust Zach because he was reminding her of herself previously in the game...but I just don't like Brandi's approach here. I have a feeling she isn't going to be a good person any longer. Her redemption lasted for just one episode, sadly.

HATE - No changes here. Sylvia remains a cocky, arrogant, entitled bitch, Shaega remains a jackass with his new power, and Dustin went back on his word he gave to Ky and Zach and backstabbed them. All three are pathetic. Sylvia clearly is not going to be winning this season, since the attitude she's been giving off is not that of a winner. Shaega is going to get a downfall for this, sooner or later. Dustin, while TRYING to "make moves", just makes himself look dumber and dumber and he just pisses more people off, so he isn't winning, either. All three suck and I seriously hope they all go next.

Reply Joey the Badass Wheeler, May 17th, 2016, 10:11 pm

@Tailslover13: Zach reminded me a bit of Stagg in terms of their developments. Can't say I find Hogan boring, and when was Joe strategic?... My bad, I remember now. Ashamed he went here. But apparently there's a double boot coming soon. As for the egotistical contestant, could be Dustin, could be Brandi, could be Shae. I'm honestly picking either Marie or Taro for the winner.

Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 10:18 pm

@Joey the Badass Wheeler: Eh, Hogan wasn't all THAT great to me. He was fine, but...he really just seemed the typical "straight guy" in both of his seasons. A tad bit quirky, but not THAT interesting. He's no Ky, or Gatemaster, or Marius, or Alleio, or Survivor Critic...or just any other interesting guy in general.

Yep, a double elimination...oh boy. We only have three Supers left: Leah, Ky, Taro. Let's hope that two Normals leave, so we're left with three supers and three normals going into the final six. My honest hope is Brandi/Shaega and Sylvia/Dustin leave. One from each pair.

Reply Joey the Badass Wheeler, May 17th, 2016, 10:31 pm

@Tailslover13: Fair enough. I found Hogan to be awesome, but I can perfectly understand why some might feel differently.

I'd be fine with those pairs leaving, but it's common in SFC that when fans start wishing and hoping for something like that, the outcome desired usually isn't the one we get.

Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 10:33 pm

@Joey the Badass Wheeler: Just hate faith, Mr. Wheeler. Anything can happen! BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS...or rather in the pages of the comic! Heh.

Reply Joey the Badass Wheeler, May 17th, 2016, 10:45 pm

@Tailslover13: Well I'll certainly hold on to hope, but last time I did that, a giant Phoenix Bird burned me alive.

Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 10:54 pm

@Joey the Badass Wheeler: That match was rigged and we all know it. You were the real winner of it. So, don't hang your head~

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:00 pm

@Tailslover13: Well even if he wasn't an all time fave, I'm glad you appreciated Zach

Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 11:05 pm

@SWSU-Master: He wasn't as good as Stagg from last season, but he was better than Roth from SFC13, so...he'd be in the middle of the "straight guy" from the past three seasons.

Reply Guest, May 18th, 2016, 4:11 am

@Tailslover13: So you would have preferred Brandi and Marie to vote Shaega and then see Brandi get CRUELLY blindsided by Zach?

Reply Tailslover13, May 18th, 2016, 4:14 am

@Guest: Definitely.

Reply Guest, May 18th, 2016, 2:43 pm

@Tailslover13: Me too, but I think faulting Brandi for voting Zach in this scenario doesn't really make much sense. If Zach had voted against Sylvia, though...

Reply ChronoAlone, May 17th, 2016, 10:07 pm

Damn. Really hoped it would've been Brandi, but I guess you gotta break the girl elimination chain somewhere.

However, now I'm really not sure who's going to win now. Zach was my easy pick, but damn. I really don't know who else could win. I guess Ky or Taro could win, which would be cool, but I don't know if we'll be that lucky. I seriously doubt we'll get another female winner for a while, so I'm stumped.

As for the ego bit, I'm guessing it'll either be Shae or Sylvia.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:02 pm

@ChronoAlone: In all fairness, anyone can win :D

Reply Vilecheese, May 17th, 2016, 10:10 pm

I was REALLY hoping for a much bigger fight than that, like Shaega slipping up and Brandi calling him out and an idol played. So now my main concern is that Shaega is outed to the whole tribe. The sooner, the better.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:01 pm

@Vilecheese: The Fight was quelled by Brandi and Taro, so blame them

Reply guesty (Guest), May 17th, 2016, 10:15 pm

I actually liked his role in the story, but he was soooooo boring compared to everyone else that I am kinda happy he is gone.




(Btw my double boot prediction is Sylvia or Dustin and Ky.)

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:03 pm

@guesty: We did need some straight players to balance out the crazy

Reply GaryHawkinsLandscaper, May 17th, 2016, 10:24 pm

Jacob's Latter It's amazing what just a few chapters can do to your opinion of someone. Up until literally this episode, I thought nothing about Zach. He was just this guy who was also a werewolf, and not in the Abbott & Costello sense. I just figured for the longest time that he's going to be our obligatory straight man. But then Shaega happened and fixed everything with his needless conflict. All of the sudden, I realize this guy had potential from the very beginning that I had completely glossed over, he becomes my pick to win... and now he's gone. The world isn't fair sometimes.

By the way, I wasn't even aware of what was going on when he scared paranoia away from Xera.


You know, I was expecting a more explosive confrontation, not some guy in a head bandage trying to act jittery.



1. Brandi
2. Shaega
3. Taro
4. Marie
5. Sylvia
6. Leah
7. Ky
8. Dustin

Now for a little crossover to my reviews on TJ's series. Since we're at the Final 8, I'm gonna reveal my official top three picks for winners, and... it 's pretty obvious.

1. Taro
2. Ky
3. Marie

Kaoh Rong finale hype! Rooting for Aubry or Cydney!

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:04 pm

@GaryHawkinsLandscaper: I'm all in for Aubry or Michelle

Reply arv0908, May 17th, 2016, 10:30 pm

Omg. Well okay. Fuck you Shaega.

I hope Marie and Sylvia (to an extent Dustin) can flip next time since how the heck are they gonna go up against two idol holders..

Gonna miss Zach but I guess we still have the lovable trio so whatever.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:04 pm

@arv0908: Wonder how much longer they can stay for?

Reply arv0908, May 18th, 2016, 7:11 am

@SWSU-Master: till Day 39!

Reply anime9001, May 17th, 2016, 10:34 pm

Well, stinks to have Zach gone, but with the numbers dwindling it's not like there's going to be many eliminations I WOULD be happy with at this point.

Past that, while I think Zach should have reiterated after his elimination that what he said was the truth, Sheaga's move still probably did himself more harm than good, because now all eyes are on him.

Lastly....what's wrong with Ky's eye in panel 40?

Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 10:38 pm

@anime9001: I think Ky is glancing to the side at Taro or Zach; you can kinda see the green from his pupils on the right side of his eye sockets.

Reply anime9001, May 17th, 2016, 10:55 pm

@Tailslover13: OH! You're right. The blank rectangle to the left of the pupil made the pupil disappear into his head for me. Still looks odd, but I see it now.

Reply Tailslover13, May 17th, 2016, 10:56 pm

@anime9001: From personal experience, making sprites isn't easy. SWSU makes errors now and then, but he still does a fantastic job. Far better than I could ever do.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:05 pm

@anime9001: Ky has a bit of an odd shaped eye so I tend to avoid having him look to the side due to that.

Reply qazox, May 17th, 2016, 10:37 pm

Shaega lied to everyone in front of Brandi, and little miss lie detector didn't catch it? She officially has no chance of winning now. And Shaega only has to survive the double-boot...

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:06 pm

@qazox: After everything Brandi went through, she wasn't willing to make any grand statements this Tribal

Reply RedBeryl, May 17th, 2016, 10:39 pm

Fare-thee-well, Fluffybutt.

Shaega's playing this rather sneakily. Getting the Normals to focus on taking out Zach by painting him as a accusing vigilante... Shame it had to happen to a good guy, but villains don't pull punches.

As for the next-episode previews....
One's Ego Leads Them Into Danger: I'm HOPING it's Shaega, but it's probably going to be one of the other Normals.
Two Immunities, Two Eliminations: Interesting. THIS will definitely shake up things.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:07 pm

@RedBeryl: Shaega really has no issues going against nice guys

Reply dat4yc, May 17th, 2016, 10:44 pm

Nooooooooo! I really was starting to like Zach, he was my winner pick. Now I guess it's all up to Ky Taro or Marie to bring it home!

Sad that Zach is gone, but glad Shaega's still in to wreak more havoc. This was the first time that Shae actually made a good move, making Zach look like he was accusing him for no reason. Excited to see what's next with him


Ky > Taro > Marie > Shaega > Brandi > Leah > Dustin > Sylvia

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:08 pm

@dat4yc: Shaega had a bit of a learning curve in relying on Paranoia too much, now he's going to trust himself some more

Reply Sonofhades, May 17th, 2016, 11:34 pm

Sigh. I saw it coming, but it was still painful. At least people will be more receptive to the possibility of Shaega being a villain in the future. I liked Zach as a character. Started out a stratbot, but he did realize his potential. I'd like to see him come back in a returning Survivors season.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:53 pm

@Sonofhades: Shaega may have had a rough start, but this was a good move for him

Reply SkySurfer (Guest), May 17th, 2016, 11:41 pm

Well, that was disappointing. In the end, it was just a normals vs supers vote and I actually expected Marie and especially Zach to try voting against Shaega. Now he cannot be voted off next round as well...

Zach was a very likeable contestant and although he claimed to be bad at socializing, we have seen him contribute to his alliances quite a lot. I'm glad he left with a smile on his face, the others will have to do a lot of apologizing when the season's over.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 17th, 2016, 11:53 pm

@SkySurfer: Marie was in for the temporary deal to get Cordelia out, it didn't extend to Zach

Reply landis963, May 18th, 2016, 12:02 am

Zach, you're smarter than this. Zach why didn't you go to Brandi with this BEFORE Tribal? Why didn't you jump onto Marie's statement and ask who planted the kidnapping idea into her head? Heck, why didn't you draw the connection between the vote gone mad and Shaega's complete and utter lack of energy the previous day? Lastly, Why oh why, after accusing Shaega, did you vote Brandi?

Agh, I hate it when the idiot ball comes flying in.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 12:42 am

@landis963: The intention was just as it was last minute in the comic, it was also last minute in terms of timing, so there would have been no time to talk t Brandi, For the Marie thing he wasn't there so he didn't know enough to mention it, and with the exhaustion point it's a stretch for anyone to gather, especially with as little time to think it over and he did, and as for why he changed his vote. As Taro said last minute plans never work

Reply Tailslover13, May 18th, 2016, 1:07 am

@SWSU-Master: As Kaoh Rong showed us with the Jennifer/Alecia vote, last minute plans DO work if the situation presents itself right.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 2:48 am

@Tailslover13: Actually the Jenny vote was decided at camp. It was just edited at Tribal Council

Reply Congo, May 18th, 2016, 1:53 am

rough way to go home! it reminds me of that scene from sfc9, where prescilla reveals her true self to adrian, and nobody believes him at tribal.

zach was never my ultimate favorite, but i was liking him more as time went on, when he resolved to fix up his social game.

shaega managed to get a victory here, which i didn't really expect, because he's been shown to be kind of a... i don't really know how to describe it, but kinda lame, with his soul powers that don't always work. lol dustin calling him dumb.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 2:49 am

@Congo: He's had his powers for only a few weeks. He's not going to be perfect with them

Reply Robolax7, May 18th, 2016, 3:21 am

And so we lose Zach. Shame. He was quite the voice of reason, and I kinda liked him.
Anyway, I really don't see why people dislike Shaega. He's a fun villain and I actually sorta root for him at this point.
Anyway nobody asked my opinion. Onto the important shit!

Game of the Day: Broforce.
Ladies and gentlemen. You gotta hand it to the Americans. If there is one thing they have for certain, it's patriotism. This game and takes it to a whole new level.
All your favourite action movie heroes taking a journey across the world to defeat the evil scum calling themselves 'communists'.
It's a surprisingly challenging action game that throws a freakish amount of enemies at you every level. Oh, and you kill the devil at the end of every level. Completely normal thing right there.

Alright now I can go cut myself

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 4:14 pm

@Robolax7: Noooo, cutting is bad :(

Reply Robolax7, May 18th, 2016, 5:00 pm

@SWSU-Master: Don't worry, I'd just be cutting my clones.

Oh, right. Forgot to mention. I cloned myself so I could survive suicide.

Reply TJBambi93 (Guest), May 18th, 2016, 4:18 am

Okay... I did predict Zach to be voted off, but the more I think about it, the more I realize something.

Who in the hell is winning this season, now? Right now, nobody left is a 'logical' winner in the normal sense of the word. So this must mean we're getting another unorthodox winner ala Angel/Cherman/Jackie/Lola. AKA someone who defers from the classic CP/MOR story arc.

I mean....

BRANDI: Redemption Arc. I personally believe it's too little, too late for her, though.
DUSTIN: Lol. He's going to get taken out probably in the double boot.
KY: We all love him, but come on, he's probably not making it to FTC.
LEAH: Sister storyarc already won last season. Otherwise I would bet Leah wins now.
MARIE: I just don't see how she can win over the jury right now. I don't see how she beats anyone but Shaega and Dustin... and I don't see Dustin in the Finals.
SYLVIA: Unless she steps up her game, she's probably not going to end up winning. I could see her turning it around if Dustin leaves in the Double Boot. If not, I don't see it happening.
TARO: He's definitely showing that he could be a non-threat, and people are overlooking him. If I had to guess a winner right now, it would be him, but... holy crap he's had little screentime.

Reply arv0908, May 18th, 2016, 7:12 am

@TJBambi93: we're gonna have an OTTP winner in Kyrochi. <3

Reply Pie31415, May 18th, 2016, 9:52 am

@arv0908: Yes pls

Reply dat4yc, May 18th, 2016, 12:38 pm

@TJBambi93: Yeah I'm thinking a Taro win is probably most likely now. Also, I don't think Leah's storyline is at all the same as the sister storyline from last season, so I think she has a decent chance to win too.

Reply Guest, May 18th, 2016, 2:09 pm

@dat4yc: That's true, but it would be really odd to have two back to back winners having the sister arc, somewhat.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 4:15 pm

@TJBambi93: I love that it's the Final 8 and so few people are confident with winner picks, and even fewer might be right

Reply Pie31415, May 18th, 2016, 9:02 am

Awwww, Zach :( At least the Markyro (Marie + Ky + Taro) trio survived.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 4:16 pm

@Pie31415: Silver lining in this

Reply Blastoise_FTW, May 18th, 2016, 10:31 am


At least Zach wasn't that great. But the way he went out... Ugh. See ya in the next All Star season, we all know you're gonna be there with Eli and Sgt. Stagg.

Double Boot next episode? Sweet. Dump both Dustin and Sylvia in a row.

Reply SWSU-Master, May 18th, 2016, 4:17 pm

@Blastoise_FTW: Dustin certainly didn't make any friends

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