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SFC11 Day 23 Pep Talk

April 8th, 2013, 9:55 pm

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Author's Comments:

Reply SWSU-Master, April 8th, 2013, 10:00 pm

Quitting Averted..... For now.

User's Comments:

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:03 pm

Beautiful pep talk, Artemis. Sunflower badly needed that to get her head on straight. Wonderful work. Hopefully it'll stick and Sunny won't go back to crying like a fool.

Reply Vilecheese, April 8th, 2013, 10:06 pm

...Why did I just laugh at one of Artemis' lines? And somewhat enjoy her presence?

Reply Guest, April 8th, 2013, 10:07 pm

@Tailslover13: Congrats, Artemis pep talk was named the worst Pep talk in SFC History. How does that feel?

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:09 pm

@Guest: It just means that you took it the wrong way and you're an idiot. Seriously, Artemis just solidified her alliance, set Sunflower right, and even shared some of her life story with her to get some character development. If you can't see that, then you're a biased idiot. Hardly worth my or anyone's time.

Reply Fern111 (Guest), April 8th, 2013, 10:09 pm

This whole comic is actually important. I expect Sunflower to vote with her better friends and Artemis won't be that friend

Bun bye

Reply Guest, April 8th, 2013, 10:10 pm

@Tailslover13: Right and talk about her being a goat is taking it the wrong way?

Reply Fern111 (Guest), April 8th, 2013, 10:10 pm

@Tailslover13: Sunflower will be Artemis' demise, mark my words

And plz stop being so biased

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:11 pm

@Fern111: Nice. You try and tell me what to do by immediately saying that Sunflower will take out Artemis? Yeah...you just looked like Juiced Up right there. Not very smart. Rather sad, actually.

Reply sesareee, April 8th, 2013, 10:13 pm

Don´t know what to say either is Artemist a B!t"# and selfish or she compacionate and nice

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:15 pm

@sesareee: She's honestly not used to showing over-the-top kindness to others, since she never got it during her life, so she's not used to it. But, she's honestly trying to be nice; just in a different way.

Reply Guest, April 8th, 2013, 10:17 pm

@Tailslover13: I want to know something, if Artemis told someone to go kill the person they trust the least, would you support that since you SHE YOUR CHARACTER?

Reply 999, April 8th, 2013, 10:18 pm

Despite this pep talk, Sunflower will still be conflicted as to who her friends are. At least she won't be talking about quitting for a while.

Reply rac567 (Guest), April 8th, 2013, 10:18 pm

Yeah my opinion of Artemis has been lower because the only reason she is "comforting" Sunflower is in order to make sure she stays an ally, and to get a goat. However even if Artemis stay around that long, the jury would posssibly pick Sunflower over her since she is a major sweetheart.

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:19 pm

@Guest: Sorry, but she wouldn't do that. And I refuse to even acknowledge such a possibility. Artemis is a lot like myself. Hurt from our past, and cold to the outside world. But, we still have hearts, and we do what we can to get where we want to go in life. We aren't the nicest of people, but we're not evil, either. If you can't respect or understand where someone is coming from, and you just want to rip them and hate them for no reason, what kind of person does that make you?

Reply anime9001, April 8th, 2013, 10:19 pm

Well, not a bad speech. But it WAS Sunflower, so not like she had to try that hard...

@Tailslover13: You complain about calling people names except for when you do it....and I think you're the last person who needs to complain about people being biased for Artemis anyway.

@Fern111 (1st post): That's what I thought by panel 6 myself

@Fern111 (second post): I hadn't thought of that one, but now I actually see that coming....not this comic...maybe. But eventually.

@Tailslover12 (second post): Actually, his points, aside from being somewhat directed at you, seem completely logical, and even likely in my opinion.

Reply Guest, April 8th, 2013, 10:21 pm

@Tailslover13: You claim to know she wouldn't do that because she your character but you sumbited her to SWSU for him to use, so if he made Artemis flat out told Flay to murder Dwayne, would you support her?

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:22 pm

@Guest: Yes, because she would say it in jest. We've ALL told someone we want to murder them in our lifetimes. Like, one sister telling her other sister: "I am going to MURDER you!" It's just in jest and isn't to be taken seriously. And, SWSU wouldn't do that; he knows how Artemis really is.

Reply Guest, April 8th, 2013, 10:23 pm

@Tailslover13: Of course he know how Artemis is, you were the one who sent him the app on how she is and how she would play the game. Congrats on getting your character in, but you don't got a lot of fans

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:24 pm

@Guest: I would rather Artemis win and get hardly any fans, over her getting a ton of fans but not winning. In the name of Herm Edwards: "YOU PLAY. TO WIN. THE GAME!" You don't play to get fans.

Reply Slicer37 (Guest), April 8th, 2013, 10:26 pm

@Tailslover13: you made a character solely to win SFC and not to entertain anyone.

that's missing the point.

Reply anime9001, April 8th, 2013, 10:26 pm

@the debate above: I actually am not surprised that she's based off of you Tails (no, that's not meant to be an insult). I figured that's why you've been so protective of her throughout the season. Though I don't like how you argue it the majority of the time, I don't blame you for wanting her to be exactly as you imagine.

So in the last few posts, I'm actually agreeing with Tailslover that she wouldn't threaten to kill someone, because it's generally you who chose her personality, reguardless how SWSU uses her.

I will say though, I'd rather a character made by me to make it to early merge with a lot of fans than win hated. That's a personal preference though.

Reply Friend of Fennecs, April 8th, 2013, 10:29 pm

Guys! Could we stop the Artemis Wars, please? It was bad enough on DeviantArt, and I don't want that business here.

I was going to give my opinions on her, but that would just add more fuel to the fire. Instead, I'm just going to worry that, with the large amount of screentime she's been getting, Sunflower will be out next.

Reply Tailslover13, April 8th, 2013, 10:29 pm

@Slicer37: As I've told SWSU already, I take his comic series like real Survivor. I don't just read it for laughs and just entertainment. I treat it like it's real. Artemis is there, and I want her to win. So very, very badly. I'm a competitive person, and competition is something I really love and I always want to be a part of. I didn't submit a character that would be so OTTP5 or OTTN5 and be hilarious or weird or stupidly delusional. That's just not what I was going for. I wanted a winner, and Artemis was my best girl to do that. She had the best story out of all my characters, and she has all the skills necessary to make it to the end. Well, most of them at least.

Reply Jolt, April 8th, 2013, 10:32 pm

I have a feeling Sunflower's going to play a big part in the next elimination.

Reply chozosubjustsharded, April 8th, 2013, 10:33 pm

Wow, how can any of you hate Artemis? She is clearly playing one of the best games this season. I'm sorry that someone is actually there to play the game and to not act stupid and just play a retarded character. Idiots!

Reply anime9001, April 8th, 2013, 10:33 pm

Heh, oddly enough, all of this talk makes me want to finally submit a character I've had in my mind for a while that's pretty much the exact opposite of Artemis. But on that note, Fennecs is right. I tried to be civil in my debate, but I'm still not helping it, so I'll try to keep this as my last post of the night~

Reply Friend of Fennecs, April 8th, 2013, 10:33 pm

@Jolt: She'll be the one responsible for it if she isn't it. Or possibly even if she is.

Reply chozosubjustsharded, April 8th, 2013, 10:34 pm

@Friend of Fennecs: I agree this drama should be at DeviantArt aka the place of the BAD PEOPLE.

Reply mydoctor93, April 8th, 2013, 10:36 pm

@Friend of Fennecs: The drama's only here because he got suspended on dA.

Reply sesareee, April 8th, 2013, 10:40 pm

Everybody just SHUT THE FUCK UP; ITS A JUST A FUCKING CHARACTER IN A FUCKING AWESOME COMIC

Reply chozosubjustsharded, April 8th, 2013, 11:15 pm

I'll talk if I want to.

Reply qazox, April 8th, 2013, 11:34 pm

@Vilecheese: I think you came down with something, quick get to a hospital!

Reply SkySurfer (Guest), April 8th, 2013, 11:51 pm

Well, Artemis seems to be really good in psychology and we finally have some background story on her. However I agree with some people here: Sunflower was never precise about who those friends will be... As long as Eli&Paine don't target Artemis, Sunflower might really vote with the Hantz boys

Reply SPDark, April 9th, 2013, 2:40 am

(Most of the comic) Artemis actually seemed somwhat nice...

(Last Panel) ...Aaaaaand it's gone.

Reply BlueDevil (Guest), April 9th, 2013, 3:42 am

It's crazy... The hate. Arty does her job well but I do agree that I much rather prefer to be a loser who has made an impact on the story and liked by many rather than win the "Bonnie" way. What I don't get though is Bonnie's worse than Arty yet people say Bon-Bon's a goddess, makes no sense. Still though in all honesty, I doubt Artemis is going to win though. I can see Final 5 being this:
1) Artemis
2) Eli
3)Paine
4) Tia
5) Whitney/Angel

With either Eli, Whitney or Angel taking the gold.

Reply JoeTheHobo, April 9th, 2013, 6:15 am

@chozosubjustsharded: No It's on DA because Chimmy called people Nazis and told people to die and saying he will slowly kill them and it's because he was making retarded comments at everyone. Silly people it's not bad DA Commenters have the fucking balls to say to someone what they really think.

As much as I love SJ it's true y'all.

Reply Shyruni (Guest), April 9th, 2013, 7:37 am

Why? Nice comic, SWSU is going great!

So, like, why on earth are you all so mad at Tailslover? I mean seriously. Sometimes, I feel she goes overboard, but she simply posted a simply happy comment, and suddenly she's getting pounded with insults.

First off, those of you complaining about her not being interesting...you do realize that being so competitive is a personality trait, right? Yeah, she doesn't do it like the others and acts nice, but that's a good tactic in this game.

Second, those of you frustrated she even exists, you do realize that you are basically insulting SWSU, right? He chose Artemis because he thought it would be a good pick, because he thought she would make a good story character. The fact that she hasn't gotten booted yet means he still sees potential in her, and I look forward to seeing that. When you complain about Artemis's personality, you are also insulting the artist's design. Think about that.

Finally, if you guys have such a big problem with it, stop reading the comic!!! Gah, it's just like the Mass Effect 3 ending freakout. If you guys don't like what you see, don't see it! Otherwise, stop complaining because it's annoying, and ruining a comic that I find to be both well-made, and very interesting. I'm sorry if I insulted anyone, and I hope I didn't make many of you angry, but I just want to give you some things to consider.

Reply mtugby, April 9th, 2013, 12:14 pm

@SPDark: This.

Reply SPDark, April 9th, 2013, 1:36 pm

@Shyruni: The problem with the Tails/Arti thing is that Tails admitted that Arti was self-insert-like, which is one of the types of Mary Sue. In addition, Tails takes the Arti insults way too seriously. Flay and Barney get a similar amount of hatred and their creators are more relaxed about it, which results in a more likable character (and less drama). If Tails could tone down the hyper-fan, and actually stop reacting when people have something negative to say, then people would back off and commenting life would be better.

I'd also like to add that it's the case with the real Survivor as well. There's an obnoxiously horrible person (coughPhillipcough) that everyone hates that gets way too much screen time. People end up hating the person, and the fans get into an argument with the haters. Does that mean that people will quit watching Survivor just because of that one specific person? NO!

@Tailslover13: None of that "It's not in me to stand down" bullshit. I've been semi-drama-free for quite a while. There's always going to be this little part of me that wants to chew someone out for problems that are their fault, but I leave it inside of me because I want to. Plus it's hilarious to send anonymous Valentines to people you don't like.

In addition, start treating Survivor like it's entertainment. It'll make things more fun for you.

@mtugby: Thank you, thank you! *bows*

Reply chozosubjustsharded, April 9th, 2013, 2:29 pm

@shyruni I agree.

YOU ARE ALL ATTACKING SWSU AND THE OWNER IF YOU DISLIKE ARTEMIS!!! Don't you people have souls? Morals?

Reply Feniks, April 9th, 2013, 2:44 pm

Artemis is shit.

Reply Tailslover13, April 9th, 2013, 4:18 pm

@Shyruni: Thank you very much for this. If people were more understanding and level-headed like you, I doubt we'd have so much fighting and arguing. Every single thing I say or do gets harped upon, just because it's not the same as everyone else, and it's so disheartening. People need to accept others for how they think and how they act. Just because it's different from the majority doesn't mean you have the right to mistreat them and alienate them. Thanks for your well-thought, detailed, and logical answer. Appreciate it!

Reply KW-Moonlight (Guest), April 9th, 2013, 4:40 pm

On DA we wouldn't fucking care but when Tails calls us Nazis and sends death threats then yeah we kind of fucking care.

Reply sesareee, April 9th, 2013, 4:42 pm

@chozosubjustsharded:I meant to say that the ones that where talking bad just shut up, didn´t meant to others that just want to say something

Reply Tailslover13, April 9th, 2013, 4:54 pm

@KW-Moonlight: I didn't call EVERYONE Nazis. But, that one 'friend' of yours has a Nazi symbol in his avatar. So, me calling him a 'Nazi' makes perfect sense. If you don't want the name, don't have an avatar with such a horrible symbol. And, wow, a few teasing death threats that we ALL say when we're mad. I've told my brother that I wanted to kill him, and he's said the same to me. Big deal. If you seriously take things so personally, you're more sensitive than I am.

Reply Tailslover13 (Guest), April 9th, 2013, 5:39 pm

@Tailslover13: Yeah, cuz we all said that we wanted to kill you.. -,- Your presence bothers me, so please fuck off

Reply Tailslover13, April 9th, 2013, 5:40 pm

@Tailslover13: And your usage of my username bothers me, so go to hell and stop telling me what to do.

Reply anime9001, April 9th, 2013, 7:37 pm

"a few teasing death threats"

......

Reply BlueDevil (Guest), April 9th, 2013, 8:22 pm

@Tailslover13: It's not so bad. Still, can't we just put the past behind us? Seriously, this is Smackjeeves, we don't need to argue. Everyone in a way is right but I am right when I say just drop it and only if a problem/conflict arises should we bring this up again. It's not a big deal if one person likes their character that much. If Tails takes the insults too seriously then Tails needs to cool his jets but if you guys are provoking Tails to say or do anything in any way, just drop the conversation.

Reply Tailslover13, April 9th, 2013, 9:14 pm

@BlueDevil: Trust me, I want nothing more than to just end all this. But what can I do? When I see shots and attacks being launched at Artemis, I just try and defend her. Same as if they were fired at me personally. Artemis simply does not deserve all the hate she gets just because of me. If she was Bonnie or Mary, she would be being called a stupid 'goddess' right now. So, a lot of the attacks don't make any sense to me at all anyway!

Reply Austin0017, April 9th, 2013, 9:16 pm

hmmm This pep talk could easily hurt Artemis and Flay's game, since telling Sunflower that she needs to protect her friends and to know who is important to her, and what if Eli and Paine are more important to Sunflower then anyone else on the tribe?
She could easily flip to Eli and Paine an cause a tie. I could be over thinking things, but anything's possible, it just depends who Sunflower values more in this game.

Well just have to see what happens won't we?

Reply Shyruni (Guest), April 9th, 2013, 9:34 pm

Last Comment Yeah, that's what I noticed. Tails defends a little more viciously than I would, but she seems to be on the defending side, so I have more sympathy for her. Plus, I personally think Artemis is a fantastic character. Very smart and cunning, reminiscent of many of the series' great players. She's a vicious gamer, but that is a very effective way to play. I look forward to what happens next!

Reply Sinjoh, April 9th, 2013, 10:02 pm

All I'm gonna say is, I can see Artemis's intention by giving Sunflower a pep talk, as Sunny is very emotional pony, but I think Artemis took Sunny talking with Eli & Paine out of proportion. Sunny's not the person to talk about strategy, she's more the one to talk about home, and keep people happy, than sneak behind Flay's and Artemis's backs. Artemis just needs to observe more about the people she's playing with, but I can see her worry. Also to Tails, don't go ape on me with this comment, I'm just stating an opinion of Artemis.

Reply sonofhades (Guest), September 12th, 2013, 3:15 pm

And this is when the flame war hit the fan. I think that's how that metaphor goes. Either way, I can't wait to see the comments drama for the next council.

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